Like many Catholics I was starting to follow Bishop Robert Barron and started buying his Word on Fire materials. He was spending millions to become a “social media superstar”, and his popularity was growing rapidly. But I was quite troubled to see his behaviors and the people around him when I first met him in person in October of 2017. (We will discuss his heretical messages at another time).
For some reason that is leading to a scandal, Barron is always surrounded by one or more muscular, tattooed men. Everywhere he goes, I mean everywhere Barron goes, he is always accompanied by these men. What’s more disturbing, he employs them, he pays them higher than high salaries, and it appears that one or more of them live with him. (White Pages listing)
When Barron started his Word on Fire Ministry (“WOF”) he named Jared Zimmerer as its executive director. Based on publicly available information, Zimmerer has been a competitive bodybuilder and became a catechist at his Texas parish but had no experience in non-profits or any executive level experience when Barron hired him. Today, Zimmerer is still an executive at WOF and a very close friend of Barron’s. Disturbingly, Zimmerer keeps posting pictures of himself showing his muscles with very little clothes at times. No morally driven corporation, school, private or public or religious organization would ever allow an executive to post those kinds of pictures online. Zimmerer’s public profile claims that he is an athlete, married and has 6 children. It is ironic to think that Bruce Jenner had the same public profile description at one point with the same number of children. But back to the issue, why would a Catholic Bishop, a man under obedience, allow an employee to exhibit his body publicly and lustfully?
But wait, Zimmerer is just the tip of the iceberg. It gets worse.
Meet “Father” Father Steve Grunow the CEO of Word on Fire Catholic Ministries and a “priest in good standing” according to the Archdioceses of Chicago and Los Angeles. A short, 4.9 feet “priest” with a Napoleon complex that also makes a point to show the world that he has big muscles and is starving for attention (vanity).
Again, why would any man do this? And this man is a priest for crying out loud! Why? I have asked this question to many people including friends of mine that are or were gay and all of them tell me that these patterns are very common amongst gay men. They use these kinds of pictures in their profiles in gay dating sites and apps like Grindr. Does the name Monsignor Burell, (another one of Archbishop Jose Gomez’ staff member) ring a bell?
We also noticed that Barron likes to spend time meeting with young seminarians at the St. John’s Seminary, and frequently invites seminarians and newly ordained priests to stay at his house overnight. Most noticeable, Barron recently invited Fr. Michel Mesa and Fr. Justin Oh. According to seminarians Mesa and Oh have had a romantic relationship for many years.
Are we insinuating that Bishop Robert Barron is an active homosexual? That is a good question that we can not answer with 100% certainty. With that said, Barron’s statements about same-sex marriage and his close relationship and public praising of male sodomy promoter “Fr.” James Martin gives us another disturbing hint in that direction. But Martin is not a bodybuilder so let’s leave him for a future article.
Now, meet Joseph Gloor, Barron’s photographer, producer, travel companion, roommate, and closest friend. According to Gloor’s Linkedin profile, he started working for Barron’s WOF in 2016. Gloor claims to be “male model” and was a public-school English teacher before he started working for Barron. Nothing, nothing in his background tells us that he had the experience to be a producer, or photographer.
Why would Barron hire a person like Gloor and why are the two always together? A single, 40 years old, white “male model” working so closely with a Catholic Bishop? I do not know about you, but I find this extremely troubling.
Gloor is not shy and his social media postings show that he is starving for attention and public praise (vanity, lust). He posts half-naked pictures, showing his muscles and tattoos to the world while being employed by a Catholic Bishop. Again, no corporation, school or religious organization in the US would EVER allow an employee to post these kinds of images online or anywhere. Most corporations have a Morals Clause, in their employment contracts. Barron, a Catholic Bishop apparently does not have this clause in his employment contracts or perhaps he allows (and enjoys) this. What is Gloor trying to tell the world and why is Barron allowing this? Why are the Archdioceses’ attorneys not stopping this? Barron is creating a scandal by allowing these public displays of indecency and vanity from his employees. Barron is also creating scandal and raising questions about his sexuality and his views and approval of, vanity, lust and homosexuality by allowing this.
It just gets worse! Another important and quite unsettling fact to note is that Joseph Gloor is the least experienced and highest paid employee at WOF ranking a salary of $135,000 per year. Gloor makes more money than the director of development, and the president of WOF (Barron’s brother). Why would Barron pay his photographer and travel companion that much money? The median salary for a documentary producer or photographer in Los Angeles is $52,000 per year and this is for a for-profit company. His work experience does not match this level of salary, period. Gloor also gets free meals at Barron’s house and when traveling. At a 5000 calories daily diet that Gloor claims to have, that becomes another $50,000 to $80,000 yearly expense for WOF. So, in our calculations, Barron is rewarding his “producer” with over $210,000 a year in salary and meals. Plus, around-the-world 5-star travel plus other benefits. That amount of salary with that experience sounds more like a gift or a bribe than a salary. Are you getting the message so far?
Let’s not forget that Barron extorted $1.5 million from the Federal Paycheck Protection Program when he had over $7million in cash reserves that could have covered his payroll expenses for several years and while small businesses in his diocese suffered financially.
An anonymous source that works for Barron told me that Barron is also a bodybuilder, and he does this to stay fit. We have not found any evidence about this so far. Also, any experienced psychologist or psychiatrist will tell you that bodybuilding at the level that Barron’s boys are, is not a fitness practice but a very dangerous addiction. Maintaining these muscle masses very often requires steroids and other dangerous mind-altering illegal drugs according to several physicians we spoke to.
So, to answer the question is Barron an active homosexual? Well, we really don’t know and affirming this would make us sin. The fact, based on the evidence presented here, is that Barron does enjoy having younger, muscular, tattooed white men around him always and he pays them unusually high salaries that look like bribes to keep them around. We find this disturbing and very questionable to say the least.
Because Barron’s actions, behaviors, views on same-sex marriage, heretical messages and apparent strange, disturbing musclemen fetish go against Church teachings, it is our right and duty under Canon Law to manifest to the clergy and others of Christ’s faithful our views on matters which concern the good of the Church.
Are we creating a scandal? NO, Barron already created the scandal. We are only exposing it. We have communicated these concerns to Archbishop Jose Gomez and Margaret Graf, the Archdiocese attorney and the Apostolic Nuncio but our numerous written, verbal, and electronic communications have been ignored. We pray for someone with clerical authority to stop Barron for the good of the Church. We pray for the Catholic community to see what we see in Barron, a dangerous prelate with a very large ego, higher ecclesiastical ambitions, who is using his large social media platform to spread heretical messages, praise male-sodomy promoters and who is prone to self-made scandals that are and will continue to damage the Church if we don’t stop him.
For our part, we stopped listening to his heretical messages, donating to WOF or buying any of their materials a long time ago. At times, when we remember how much money we gave this prelate and his Word on Fire scam, we think about suing Barron and WOF for false advertisement and fraud.
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I have listened to many B Barron videos. He has help me strengthen my faith. I find him very logical and rational. I know his video about hell is controversial, but I just think he does more good than harm. I pray he is not living a life style suggested by this article. I am Church Militant premium member, and I will continue to listen to B Barron but with more discernment.
oh no! Learning about Catholicism from Barron is like learning about capitalism from Karl Marx. Barron uses big words to hide his heretical messages.
Pray for good clergy. It must be excruciating for them!!
Well put Ruth!
Beware, as Our Lord noted…a little leaven ruins the whole loaf. No Bishop should be doing ANY harm. Period. +Barron has promoted heresy and is now surrounding himself with scandal. There are many other teachers out there you can listen to without exposing yourself to this darkened soul. Follow Fr. Ripperger instead. Logical, rational and teaches the pure faith without scandal:+) God bless~
A friend of mine who is working as a secretary in the Bishop’s office only receives $ 140 a month as her total salary. 😢
that is pathetic! get thee behind me satan
The picture of the “boys” is a picture with the actor that plays Jesus in The Chosen series, not part of his staff. He is the man wearing the dark blue shirt and hoodie. Just thought you should know. Let’s pray for those in authority, their judgement before God will be severe because of all that has been entrusted to them.
At the end they come like ravening wolves. … their deceptions confuse even the elite…
It is so easy to get fooled by this “man”. He uses big words and talks and talks and talks with words that appear to be orthodoxy but it is only a way to trap people to deliver his heretical messages.
What message are you delivering?
I too was a huge fan of Barron and watching him interacting with the “men” that you mentioned in the article was indeed disturbing. I truly believe that his views and opinions about the faith are been shaped by his close relationship with the homosexual men closely around him. He wants to make them think that they have a chance to go to heaven even if they are sinning.
Can we talk about Barron’s “sugar-daddies” giving him millions to become social media famous and promote their homosexual lifestyles? I can quickly name two of them: Brian W. Matthews a very wealthy banker in Los Angeles who is “married” to another man. Doug Brown, a flamboyant stock trader that is always surrounded by younger “men”. He has at least one of these fruitcakes living in his Beverly Hills condo and one living with him in his house in Las Vegas. But be careful, you may open several Pandora boxes with these two.
Did you notice that Bishop Robert Barron pays himself $38,000? So, part of the money he extorted from the SBA funds was to cover his salary…. Barron should also be getting a nice $60,000 to $150,000 salary as a Bishop plus all his meals, living expenses are paid by the diocese. This guy is not only heretic, most likely homosexual, but also a crook!
I stopped listening years ago. There are much better true catholics to lusten and learn from than this sheep in wolves skin.
God have Mercy on Barron.
So true, look for traditional catholic sermons.
I stopped listening years ago. There are much better true catholics to listen and learn from than this sheep in wolves skin.
God have Mercy on Barron.
I had my doubts about Barron early on when I wrote a critique of his book, Letter to a Suffering Church, which can be read at: https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/a-response-to-bishop-robert-barrons-letter-to-a-suffering-church After reading the above Clean the Church article, a friend of mine simply said, “If it walks like a duck; quacks like a duck; and looks like a duck; it’s probably a duck.”
This is garbage God have mercy on your heretical soul!!!!!
I find this entire article ridiculous. If someone is GAY they are always GAY NOT once was GAY!!! What is wrong with you? Fr James Martin is a wonderful priest. If I recall Pope Francis says we are to welcome GAYS!!!!
Do you think God is so cruel that He would create someone already at odds with His Truth? NO. God is not cruel. But the devil IS. He hates the beautiful creations of God and seeks to twist it and pervert it to become like he is. Homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism, etc. are NOT God’s handiwork. Those who suffer from these temptations need the TRUTH, and need help in the fight, not to be encouraged to act on the feelings. Theirs is one of the worst crosses to bear. And only the Truth will set them free.
Well said and true. We need to remember the Lord’s prayer. Who’s kingdom come? Not mine. God, our Father’s kingdom. Who’s will? Not mine. God’s will be done. One earth as it is in heaven. Jesus told us He came to do the will of the Father. We are to keep the commandments. Our Lord told us, “if you love ME, keep MY commandments “.
Are you for real?? Lol wow. Wake up sweet heart. Wake up. Or get off this website if you cant handle the truth. I have no sympathy or patience with you novos ordo people. You guys are so annoying.
Barron surely welcomes gays.
We are to welcome those who may have lustful thoughts about those of the same-sex. This is different from being “gay”. If you “come out” you are in fact saying, the most defining characteristic of me is my same-sex attraction. This is not of God. If you do not practice homosexuality you are no more “gay” than anyone else, you are, like God wants us to be, in control of your behavior.
The perennial Magisterium of the Church does not change with the notions of every passing pope. The papacy exists to proclaim the perennial Magisterium and to support our belief and practice of the enduring Gospel of Jesus Christ. No bishop, no pope, can contradict the Gospel as understood in the perennial Magisterium. “Gay” bespeaks an ideological movement contrary to the Gospel. Those who experience same-sex attraction do not necessarily subscribe to the gay movement. Francis, James Martin, implicitly endorse the gay subculture. Sodomy is a mortal sin.
As you can see by some comments here, there are many confused Catholics today, who have no idea about proper spiritual discernment or how to apply it. They have drunk the Koolaid, that to expose someone who presents themself as a Catholic bishop but in actuality is living a life completely contrary to what a bishop should be and do, is a bad thing. It is a bad thing to present yourself as such and bilk people out of their hard-earned money under false pretenses. If bishops want to be active homosexuals, be one. Just don’t conceal that from the people. In all honestly you must reveal that and take the consequences. No, they don’t do that, the money train might stop and who would pay all these studs for the “good times”? They don’t hang around aging bishops for nothing. Guys like these cost money. After all we’ve seen, yes, if it looks like a duck etc., it’s a damn duck!
Easy gig, a bit of theater on Sundays, free housing, insurance, food, travel with “friends” and “producers”, and access to seminarians and young people. What’s not to love? The life of a well-connected Catholic clergyman, who went into the church for anything but God.
Then, to boot, they hate Catholicism and work hard to turn it into something unrecognizable.
We’ve got about 5 faithful bishops. Most of them are retired.
There is no gay gene. The science is settled.
The Homosexuals have pumped (pun intended) millions into research since the Human Genome Project came out in the early aughts, yet not one “gay gene” has been discovered. Had it been, it would’ve made worldwide news daily forever.
Homosexuality, like all sexuality, is a choice. We can chose to be in line with God’s intentions or to run contrary to them.
I do not agree that all sexuality is a choice. I am heterosexual by nature and I am naturally attracted, in a sexual way, to young, attractive women. There is no conscious choice involved in this.
My reaction to that natural inclination, however, is to recognize that pursuing satisfaction of my natural inclination is contrary to God’s commands, and hence, to remain chaste.
Same-sex attraction, regardless of the reasons why or how it comes about, while being a highly disordered state, may not be a conscious choice, either.
Yes. You are totally correct. No one is “born” with aberrosexualism, i.e., anatomically and biologically aberrant sexual behavioral choices. Nature does not condemn anyone to behave aberrosexually, any more than it forces anyone to be an adulterer, a shoplifter, or a rapist. The opposite of Aberrosexualism is Orthosexuality, or anatomically and biologically correct sexual behavior.
Anyone can be mentally attracted to anything, be it adultery, gambling, drinking, shoplifting, etc. However, people freely choose “how” they will respond to and proceed with that attraction.
Yes. You are totally correct. No one is “born” with aberrosexualism, i.e., anatomically and biologically aberrant sexual behavioral choices. Nature does not condemn anyone to behave aberrosexually, any more than it forces anyone to be an adulterer, a shoplifter, or a rapist. The opposite of Aberrosexualism is Orthosexuality, or anatomically and biologically correct sexual behavior.
Anyone can be mentally attracted to anything, be it adultery, gambling, drinking, shoplifting, etc. However, people freely choose “how” they will respond to and proceed with that attraction.
Comments get censored here, huh?
If I were an archbishop, and I made a habit of surrounding myself with well-endowed young women, in whose company I was constantly seen, whom I gave jobs they weren’t qualified to do at salaries well beyond the going rate, would that cause any scandal? What if I lived with one of them? What if I called my ministry Sexy Word? What if I praised Hugh Hefner and called him a stud in my preface to his book?
No evidence of Bp. Barron’s bodybuilding? Check out the photo in this articles, captioned “Mr. Muscle.”
https://musingsofanoldcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2020/11/satire-learning-to-prey-guide-for.html?m=1
So Barron has a fetish for young, white, muscular guys with tattoos and an addiction to bodybuilding. A well rounded psychopath!
Cracks me up that you think $135k in LA is a big salary…
for an inexperienced “photographer” yes. Almost 3 times the average and remember this is a non-profit.
I, too, pray this is not true. I am familiar with the Barron’s initial meeting (Jared did a video on the website) and why he named Jared his executive producer. Jared was passionate and drove a lot of the initial forming for Word on Fire so he deserved it. Secondly, Bishop Barron’s messages are wonderful, regardless – do NOT dismiss his teachings out of turn. He fills a hugely important outreach to internet atheism/insanity and is critical in these days. If you don’t like the “big” words you can learn more or choose to learn from another…but there are many who love his teachings (me included)
There are some things that are a bit iffy – like his acceptance of other religious groups, but his teachings on virtually everything is either spot on or, at worst, a little too forgiving. This is a problem with a LOT of the church today but his job isn’t in this area of the church – his job is to address the unbelievers and open doors. Also, keep in mind, this is most likely nothing more than much ado about nothing, but after the huge scandals about homosexual priests, one would hope Bishop Barron would have the foresight to nip rumors like this in the bud
I stopped listening to this fake years ago. He is a fraud and has indicated that many times with his heretical teachings. This revealing of his obvious homosexuality just confirms what I thought he was all along. Stop buying his products and giving him more money to continue his homosexual lifestyle. God have mercy!
I stopped listening to this fake years ago. He is a fraud and has indicated that many times with his heretical teachings. This revealing of his obvious homosexuality just confirms what I thought he was all along. Stop buying his products and giving him more money to continue his homosexual lifestyle. God have mercy!
I don’t listen to this heretic, but I know there are a few churches in my parish that pay for his productions! So sad that many fellow this so call Bishop! People are following this Bishop straight to hell!
Thanks for reporting with factual details as the writing is on the wall and we know what’s going on. You aren’t made a Bishop in the current leadership without being part of the Wolves in Sheep’s clothing. He’s part of the Lavender Mafia in my opinion.
God bless you for exposing this bizarre behaviour – whatever anyone says, it was right and proper for you to have done it. Hopefully this will bring Bp Barron to account for his behaviour, although under this current pontificate, don’t hold your breath . . . .
Nonsense. Bodybuilders at these level are usually not homosexuals. I was into bodybuilding when I was younger. It’s far from an effeminate activity. Eating massive amounts of food, lifting heavy weights, then doing the same while essentially fasting to burn fat. It is addicting, yes, but to imply it’s a homosexual sport is nonsense ever seen Arnold? Sly? Ferrigno? I’d rather see a manly muscular bishop that a soft effeminate Nancy boy. I’d instead concentrate on the effeminate trad priests and bishops that have most people hoodwinked.
Danny, I think on the case of Barron and this report, you need to connect the dots. The report is not a criticism of bodybuilding, it is to me, a way to expose corruption from this prelate.
Did you live with any of your bodybuilding pals? While never being alone with a female?
I didn’t say any of them were homosexuals. But the whole idea of bishops hanging around with tattooed bodybuilders IS bizarre. If you can’t see that, that’s your problem. You’ve admitted bodybuilding is an addictive behavior, so that in itself shows that it cannot be pleasing to God who doesn’t want us to become addicts to anything. Also there is the issue of tattooing, condemned in Leviticus 19:28: “You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh, for the dead, neither shall you make in yourselves any figures or marks: I am the Lord.” The whole idea of wanting to look like this is just vain, conceited and conforming to the world – whether you’re a homosexual or not. And it’s not a question of being a ‘muscular bishop’ or an ‘effeminate bishop’ either. You can be a true manly man without going to the gym and bulking up and/or doing steroids. That’s just a parody of masculinity. Obviously nobody wants a ‘gay’ or ‘pro-gay’ bishop, but I’m sure the majority of Catholics don’t care what their bishops look like physically, as long as they’re orthodox and SAINTLY. That’s what is going to get them and their flocks to Heaven, not physical appearance.
You can’t convivence people who’ve already decided to hate someone. The accusations made in this article are sad. Hate has no place in Christ’s church. Didn’t Jesus say a bad tree couldn’t bear good fruit? Bishop Barron has done wonders for our church and has brought many lapsed Catholics back home.
The only bishop you can trust is Bishop Williamson because he is a bona fide uncompromising anti woke anti modernist Catholic. The real deal.
Interesting story. I gave up on Barron when Card. Dolan gushed that he was the new Bishop Sheen. Spare us O Lord.
I’ve been tempted to give up on Michael Voris too. After his father died, his appearance became visibly boldybuilder buff and his wardrobe changed to spotlight his pumped up arms and chest. His multiple hair colors and styles are also a distraction from his message. He made need a refresher course in the first grade catechism, viz. Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit.
What about the little “on fire” innuendo don’t people understand? Almost like it’s aflame or perhaps flaming or something…
BARRON YOU ARE MALICIOUS AND DISGUSTING. YOU’RE SO LOW. SO CHEAP. SO PATHETIC.
Stop Scapegoating Barron. I think people are ignoring the real problems here. Stop playing detective as if you knew everything about Bishop barron, you dont know him nor understand his mind fully for you to harshly judge him like that. Are you friends with him in real life? If the answer is no then stop causing a ruckus like this.
I’m sorry that my responding comment to ‘Paul’ was removed and I don’t know why, because it wasn’t unfactual or offensive. Out of Christian charity, perhaps some explanation can been given to me by the administrator for this website. If you don’t want to make it publicly, you have my email address so can email me and let me know why you removed my comment. I can’t recall all the points I made, but:
(A) Paul said people are ignoring the real problems. I asked what the ‘real’ problems were.
(B) I explained I was not connected to this website, just a commentor, but I never got the impression that you claimed to know everything about Bp Barron.
(C) Paul claims you don’t understand Bp Barron’s mind fully – does he? Is he a mind reader?
(D) Is Paul a friend of his in real life? If so, is Paul into bodybuilding and tattooing?
AMEN!!!! People who claim to be Christians slandering a Bishop…SMH.
It is our duty and right, as Christians to question clergy. Read Canon Law!
Almost every bishop is gay no matter what their public position on any subject. Asking the question “Is bishop so-and-so a homosexual?” is like asking if the ground is wet during a rainstorm.
The Church does not govern Herself in this time. She is in chains while the wolves prey heedlessly on Her children.
There is not a single prelate who is not a puppet and a pawn of some craven oligarchic powers.
This article is trash. “Maintaining these muscle masses very often requires steroids and other dangerous mind-altering illegal drugs according to several physicians we spoke to.“ ….. Who did you speak to?? It takes hard work, discipline, and eating the right foods.
Satan is also known as the accuser.. I pray for the repentance of this author’s soul.
…and Jesus wept.
1) Well, I’ve benefitted from him passing on the faith, whether or not he lives it himself. BUT
2) Not everyone can be evangelised with cigars, tiramisu and C S Lewis lectures. Frankly, if you want scandal, I’d be more worried about those who can be. All I see here is a good PR machine.
This entire post was one Titanic list of insinuations conjunction and just unchristian charity.
unfortunately, it is all true
Lets see some REAL evidence not just silly accusations.
Julien DeMarco
No, there were no insinuations. Facts and figures were given. Also photographic evidence of musclemen employed by Bp Barron flaunting pictures of their scantily clad bodies on social media and the internet. Get a grip. And there is no such thing as ‘unchristian charity’ which is a contradiction in terms. It’s either ‘Christian charity’ or ‘uncharitable and unChristian’.
AMEN!
This article is absurd and you should be ashamed.
I’m a far-right conservative full believing Catholic and no fan of the gay culture. But this is just nuts. If +Barron surrounded himself with women, you’d go after him for that. If he surrounded himself with weak men, you’d say he was effeminate. If he surrounded himself with anyone, you’d find a reason to go after him. Because you don’t like him. Because he doesn’t preach your specific mode of pious Catholic theology. If you want to go after him for his “heterodox” teachings, fine. But I much prefer a bishop who wants to be around authentically masculine men who are pursuing excellence in their health. I am not into the rando priest showing his muscles off, because that isn’t a part of the priestly lifestyle. But the other guys? That’s what they do. They’re fitness nuts and it is normal to show that. The insinuation that one of them having six kids and being married is just a “Bruce Jenner in hiding” is just pathetic. And their salaries are not high for California, the average filmmaker of mid 50’s is because the industry in filmmaking is filled with people who literally make $0 a year because they haven’t found work. They earned their spot at WOF, presumably because they were there from the beginning, putting work into a ministry that was important to them, well before they were earning that salary.
The only thing this article makes me question is what its author is hiding.
Bishop Barron, like most Bishops and priests, can’t win. If he had an all female staff he would be a suspected womanizer. If he hires wimpy or macho guys he is a suspected closet homosexual. Additionally, the method to estimate Joseph Gloor’s salary is specious at best which leads one to conclude this entire article is speculative. Based on the recent history in the church, it is advisable to be discerning when dealing with bishops, priests or ministers (the protestants have their own sexual abuse scandals- they just are not as public). However, discernment and unfounded accusations are two different things. This article is a hit piece on Bishop Barron most likely because he and his organization have experienced a modicum of success.
1. Where did you get to know that Gloors diet expenses were also paid by the Bishop? 🙂
2. You neglected to mention that Gloor does not figure in previous years filings – although his LinkedIn profile suggests that he was working there for 5-6 years.
3. His experience seems to be in Theatre – based on the LinkedIn profile. Not exactly unrelated fields. And showbiz remuneration will vary wildly.
Not buying your theory for now until we see a more trustworthy argument.
This article is amateurish–not professional journalism in any sense.
–insulting scare quotes–calling a priest a “priest” and a bishop a “bishop”
–lots of conclusory statements about psychological issues, motivations, “complexes”
–NOBODY who knows bodybuilding would conclude that any of these guys are using drugs–they just aren’t all that big.
Barron’s heresies are an open book. Attack those.
I know all the men mentioned in this story. Especially Barron and Grunow, whom I’ve known well for years. I very much doubt any of them are gay. Barron is the real deal. Yes, I don’t get the bodybuilding thing, either. It’s sort of weird but not especially alarming to me. Not a good look though, I’ll grant you. Barron lifts for fitness, Grunow for sport. The fact that Joe Gloor was fired for alleged sexual harassment of several women (your reporting) would appear to poke a large hole in this cheap-shot story. Oh, and by the way…as mentioned above, there’s no such thing as a former gay person, just as there’s no such thing as an ex-alcoholic.
By the way, I’m not gay nor Catholic. Just an interested third party.
I prefer not to identify myself so I figure you won’t publish this but thought I’d give you my 2 cents anyway. I thought your post on Joe Gloor was a much better bit of writing and fairly straightforward, considering. Thanks and God help us all.
My goodness this article and many of the comments are so judgmental and slanderous. So unchristian.
Ye, you are right. What Barron is doing is horrible and unchristian, evil.
Bishop Baron for me has been a God send. I listen to him regularly on his Word on Fire shows and for me he has helped deepen my understanding of the Faith and Christ. There is a passage in the bible where Jesus scolds his disciples who are complaining about other apostles that are not part of their group preaching the good news. Jesus says Do not stop him, for whoever is not against you is for you. Bishop Barons message is clearly not against God so let’s not stop him spreading his wisdom of God and Faith.